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viagra in bangkokHaving had a bit of time between then (showing) and now, I thought I’d take some time to note some possibilities for future development of “Crevice”. They aren’t in any particular order, but I’m interested to hear what you think.
1. Stages. My feeling is that we need at least another developmental stage before going into some form of presentation. I am thinking that this next development could occur next summer - perhaps December, although I have a feeling that January might be better. Any thoughts on this? I can’t see it happening between now and then at all (too many other commitments). In terms of this, I don’t mind the project ’stretching’ out over a fairly long time frame. Let the ideas drive the development, and no be compelled to present until it’s ready. This might mean that we present even as far away as February 2009 (!!).
2. Probably my biggest concern stemming from the first development is the issue of how the audience ‘handles’ the experience. By this I mean the actual mechanics of getting the audience into and out of the ‘house’ space. The various options we explored felt very clumsy. And this was exacerbated by what I perceived the watching experience to be like once the audience was ‘in there’.
As a result - and also from our various conversations - I wonder what the possibilities of developing a durational type work. One in which there is no prescribed beginning or end, in which the audience members (when/if they arrive) decide for themselves when and what to observe. In effect, I am suggesting we develop the work as a ‘true’ installation. It could work as a hour long rotation that is repeated 4 times (I like the idea that my role as a performer is strongly tested in this respect).
The project could then include both inside and outside viewing of the materials, leaving the choice to enter the ‘house’ up to the viewer. It would also mean we’d have fewer people (generally) in the house - giving a greater sense of intimacy, and reducing the awareness of other audience members (and getting in their way etc).
Also - we could then reconsider possibility of ‘revealing’ the moving body person only for people who enter the house. So, if you were to be watching the work from outside the house, you would not be aware of the underneath. But to go in - you may or may not (depending on lx state) be privy to that person.
Pushing this further - perhaps there are two sound environments - one that is ‘bigger’ and very clear when viewers are outside the house; and another more intimate (perhaps heavily voiced/text based) that is discernible when in the house (to generate a kind of audio mix between inside and outside sounds).
I also am interested in how we could develop narrative fragments in this type of arrangement … to offer a way of entering the ‘world’ regardless of what stage of the cycle it is experienced.
Best of all, I think, is being able to really allow images to develop over time - and not feel like we are squeezing ’stuff’ into a small timeframe. It would also mean that the project becomes a really strong foil to the conceptual framings of “Inert” - allowing audience total control of viewing time, location, quality.
3. I wonder what you think is ‘going on’ in the materials as they currently exist? I am still deeply interested in ideas related to security and time (particularly to do with the erosion of edifice). But some things came out of the showing that need to be considered. One, I think, is the role of the audience in the work? Jason Maling asked if he was an observer or a participant. Can he be both? Aren’t we always both? However, the ‘entry’ of the viewer into the house implies participation far more than conventional performance. What of having objects of house in the house? A table, chairs? The development of texts will also really push the project in particular direction(s) … there is something about a ‘retreat by choice’ that is still interesting to me.
4. Video - I do have a concern about the various aesthetics present in the work. I am thinking of working on some ‘cleaner’ animations, that are white lines on black background. The material Cormac shot on the second day of the shoot (!!) seemed stronger in developing a relationship with the space. But not sure about this at all.
5. Where to present? I really like North Melbourne town hall. The only problem is that it might be tricky to present a ‘duration/installed’ context in a venue in which audiences are used to beginning/end performances. ACCA would be great, so would ACMI.
OK - I think that’ s it.
I look forward to your comments David (b/c I can’t see Shannon and Cormac starting responses at this late stage!).
ske
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February 24th, 2007 at 9:57 am
well, i got here, a little late but you know… i am studying medicine now!
(that’s gonna be a great excuse isn’t it)
1. Stages. I definitely agree with at least one more developmental stage. I see the potential for working on digital media outside of this stage though. through storyboarding, animatics, comps - to develop a structure for the work. i mean, isn’t it filmic in many ways? couldn’t we follow a model like that for developing most of the projected and audio materials?
Presenting Feb 2009 sounds great! again meshes with the film model - longer planning/development times. I finish exams Dec 10 and start beginning of Feb. Hoping to fit in 2 weeks in NYC in Jan with Jacob.
2. Oh, well i wonder if these ideas oppose the suggestion above? I find something very appealing about moving it into an installation work - entry point and duration become choices for the audience. or, do we simply make a longer work? make an hour long piece that has a designated starting time and people can enter whenever they choose - missing and finding pieces of the narrative as it happens.
3. Got to go and teach class now. more later.
February 24th, 2007 at 12:46 pm
ok, back again.
back to 2.
the sound idea is good. defining the internal/external spaces. perhaps these sound materials could also be different perspectives (ie. subjects perspective and observers perspective - in a literal sense using text) associate with each area. also some internal sound could act as a lure… to make people want to go in to find out what is being said.
and what about live text - you speaking.
3. crikey. don’t know if i can address this now. but… what do you mean ‘a retreat by choice’?
one of the things that Jason said was about how the material shifted his sense of being involved/immersed/participating in the work. and i think this was linked to how the amount of light defined the space - where the darkened screens with only small appearances of body added an illusion of depth to the space that the brighter animated style images didn’t. i think that the audience is always both participant and observer - in much the same way a performer can be (particularly the improvising performer…
my response to the idea of furniture in the space… i can’t imagine it working very well - that it becomes some sort of hinderence to the visual field, to the possibility of imagined fields and animated fields. perhaps though, it provides a really clear contextual link - if that’s where it is going.
4. good-o. worth exploring.
5. ACCA is perfect i reckon. it would be great there. probably in the far back room rather than the big room - it could all get a little lost in the big room. although i think the roof in the back room is a little bit low perhaps. ACMI could be good too. email coming about this…
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March 1st, 2007 at 3:33 am
Hey Mr Corbet et al - I’ll try and be brief.
Re your responses to 1 and 2 - yes, I think the idea of doing storyboarding etc is a good one, and does not in any way interrupt the ‘durational’ aspect I am proposing. I think a simple 1 hour loop is a good way of dealing with narrative elements …
Yes - like idea of sound/text offering perspectives. Live text not out of the question at all.
Oh - fuck knows what i meant by ‘retreat by choice’ - but I am getting at the idea that it is not a requisite for viewers to enter the ‘house’ … that how they experience the environment is not pre-determined. I guess when I used the word retreat I was thinking of the inside as being a secure place … to retreat to a place of security …
Yes - we can keep discussing locations. No hurry there.
oh - interesting what you wrote about ‘illusion of depth’ in the darker video aspects … this is the opposite of what I think I was wanting. I am not sure that this is why Jason felt like he did … I got the sense that he felt part of the work when the darker video was on - when it was ‘upon’ him … but with the animations etc he felt more like an observer. But for the opposite reasons you suggest … !!
Anyway - I guess one of the upshots of this is that it would be worth finding to what degree we can immerse the viewer in this world … to not necessarily let them off the ‘immersion hook’ b/c of the tone/quality of the animation/light material …
no smiley faces from me. actually, here’s one so that wordpress wont fuck with it. ; - ) (why the long face?)
March 1st, 2007 at 7:34 am
yeah, don’t you hate how smileys get converted
so ugly.
i was sure that was what jason meant, but good to have both ideas in mind…
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